We close this season with our hosts sharing a retrospective conversation about the start of the Absolute Gene-ius series, the wonderful guests hosted, favorite moments, and lessons learned. In addition to the season recap, Cassie and Jordan also interview each other to extract some “Cassie’s Career Corner” insights about their respective backgrounds and how they each ended up in their current roles. Join us to get to know your hosts a bit better and to reflect on this amazing inaugural season!
It’s not every day that you discover a new podcast series you like, and it’s not every day that you start hosting a podcast series either! To bookend this inaugural season of Absolute Gene-ius, Jordan and Cassie interview each other to provide a retrospective look at the season and to learn more about each other and their respective career paths.
In their recap of the season, we revisit the diversity of applications that guests used digital PCR to progress, from monitoring wastewater for infectious diseases like SARS-CoV-2, to monitoring zebrafish populations to ensure research organizations around the world have reliable model organisms, to looking characterizing microbial diversity in some of the Earth’s most extreme environments. We also get to hear about each hosts’ favorite moments, biggest surprise, what they’re proud of, and what they love most about the series they’re helping build.
Jordan and Cassie also share a bit more about their individual career paths and journey within science. We learn how Jordan parlayed a childhood connection to a Claymation elf dentist into being a published author his career in marketing life science products. We learn how Cassie’s had several jobs that led to eye-opening experiences that eventually led to her finding a home in technical marketing and communication. Don’t miss this season 1 recap to get to know your hosts a bit better and to hear about what’s coming soon!
Visit the Absolute Gene-ius page to learn more about the guest, the hosts, and the Applied Biosystems QuantStudio Absolute Q Digital PCR System.
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Cassie McCreary00:00
This is the point where we do some kind of a smooth transition to the start of our interview, like we always do. It's always, it's always, you always start with "well" and then the guests name "so well.."
Jordan Ruggieri00:10
Exactly! That's it.
Cassie McCreary00:11
Well, Jordan.
Jordan Ruggieri00:16
Dang it, I'm that predictable.
Cassie McCreary00:18
No. I'm just that used to working with you.
Jordan Ruggieri00:37
Well, Cassie, something unique this time around. Decided to do a nice Season one recap and interview each other. It's gonna be a, it's gonna be a fun episode. Hope everyone's in for, in for a wild ride here.
Cassie McCreary00:50
Little walk down memory lane with you, Jordy. I might get a little emotional. I'm a little emosh. Oh, my God,
Jordan Ruggieri00:57
Season one. Can you believe it?
Cassie McCreary01:00
Oh, yeah, this has been probably one of my favorite projects to work on so far this year, or possibly my entire career. So yes, it has been. I feel truly lucky to get to speak to these brilliant minds for this.
Jordan Ruggieri01:15
Yeah, our gene-iuses were truly geniuses.
Cassie McCreary01:18
They lived up to the name. Way to go.
Jordan Ruggieri01:20
They lived up to the name for sure. Yeah. Had a good group. Everybody doing such cool inspiring research. I mean, from Mariana Trench to microbes in the soil to bioinformatics on SARS-CoV-2 biobank samples. I mean all over the place.
Cassie McCreary01:37
You have any favorite, I guess, applications that we've gone over?
Jordan Ruggieri01:42
I think, I don't think it's a big surprise when I tell you how jealous I am of that Mariana Trench research. That is,
Cassie McCreary01:50
The toilet brush situation is what sold me.
Jordan Ruggieri01:52
Yes. I just find that so fascinating. ROV's and all of the different collection stations and how they're using digital PCR to really look at the microbes there and hone in on you know, are they dead? Are they alive? What does it tell us about life at the most extreme environments? I just find that absolutely fascinating.
Cassie McCreary02:18
Yeah, very cool for sure. I would say probably for me, it's not necessarily an application, but it's an aspect of the show is I loved, loved because of who I am and how I function, that we had so many wonderful examples of brilliant, just excellent women in STEM on our show.
Jordan Ruggieri02:40
Oh, it’s awesome.
Cassie McCreary02:40
We love to see the representation. We love it.
Jordan Ruggieri02:42
Yes.
Cassie McCreary02:42
Snaps, snaps, snaps. That's right.
Jordan Ruggieri02:45
Really a very diverse guest lineup. Not just women, but you know, people from all over the world and that are doing just amazing research and really changing the world. It's inspiring, for sure.
Cassie McCreary03:00
It is, yeah. And they had, like, all of them had very unique backgrounds. Like I wouldn't say that there was I think every single guest we had at some point, their path towards where they've reached in their career it was not necessarily, I guess what maybe anybody can like consider like the straight path or the traditional path. So, I love that too.
Jordan Ruggieri03:20
Yeah, it's good. Everyone with their own their own career experiences and wisdom that they pass on to to the next generation of scientists.
Cassie McCreary03:28
Probably one of the episodes that might still be giving me nightmares is when we covered, it was episode three with Patrick, and we were learning about parasites. This was just like new horrors unlocked for me.
Jordan Ruggieri03:41
I know my favorite was his story of falling in the lake.
Cassie McCreary03:44
I do love that.
Jordan Ruggieri03:45
Yeah. And just how involved even his family is in in research as well and looking at snails and I just thought that was that was really cool. Really cool to see how science and his research permeates every aspect of his life really.
Cassie McCreary04:03
Yes. Yeah, I agree.
Jordan Ruggieri04:05
What, what did you find cool when it comes to how digital PCR was used with the with the guests? I mean everybody knows we love digital PCR here on Absolute Gene-ius, so.
Cassie McCreary04:18
I think for me, I mean, honestly, I found all the cool every time we had a guest on, I was like, "Wow, what a unique and interesting use of dPCR!" And I'm not just saying that because this podcast is about dPCR. I actually genuinely mean that. But I think one of the ones that really for me was particularly interesting because I don't necessarily have really any background knowledge on it was Nikhil's episode, and all about bioinformatics and those applications because that is just such it's always been such a mystery to me. So yeah, it was it was very interesting for me. What about you?
Jordan Ruggieri04:49
I learned something from every single episode but having Zoltan and Corbin on I thought was really cool. I don't do any, or have had any experience with zebrafish and model organisms in that sense, and it was just really cool to hear about how they're able to bring these model organisms up in a way that allows for really nice controls and to delve into that world of what it takes to grow a model organism and use that within their research.
Cassie McCreary05:23
Yeah, that's a good point, because I've never really, I've never really dealt with zebrafish at all, either. And it's when we had that conversation. I was like, wow, this really is such a crucial aspect of research for so many people. And it just never even dawned on me. So yeah,
Jordan Ruggieri05:37
Yeah. How they use digital PCR to look at infectious diseases. I mean, never thought about infectious diseases playing a role in the genome of zebrafish, how that can actually impact the experiments setup and the model organism.
Cassie McCreary05:52
Yeah, we really did run, like the gamut of applications this season. I mean, we’ve, we've gone from wastewater research to we had parasites, agricultural applications and research. And then of course, I mean, there was Dave's episode where it was just, it was so much math that I'm just I'm still I think I'm in recovery from that one also. But,
Jordan Ruggieri06:17
His episode was what I learned the most from. I just, it's not something you know, I am not a, I've taken stats classes, but I'm not a stats guy, not necessarily a math guy. And it's just fascinating to hear about the modeling. Although, you know, my brain doesn't quite fully comprehend it. Very, very
Cassie McCreary06:36
We appreciated it.
Jordan Ruggieri06:37
Very cool and unique episode. Yeah, we can appreciate the complexity of Poisson and how that impacts digital PCR. What boggled your mind the most?
Cassie McCreary06:45
Literally all of it, all of it. You know, what, actually, and this is like a, I think, a very positive, mind boggle, if you will. It wasn't necessarily any one specific topic. What it was, was how well each guest could convey really complex information about their research, really technical topics, in just such digestible formats. Like I mean, I, I know, I have a little bit of a background in these things. And you do too, but for me, they made it like, “Wow, I could talk about this now.” So for me, that was pretty mind boggling, because by the end of it, I was like, “How do they even manage to convey that so well?” So, I was very impressed by that. What melted your mind?
Jordan Ruggieri07:31
Oh, I, I always go back to the toilet brush.
Cassie McCreary07:35
Is it the toilet brush?
Jordan Ruggieri07:36
Yeah, with Brandi and Lydia and just the creativity around solving problems in science. And it was not just, it's not just book knowledge, it's how you approach problems. And what you do to solve those problems and how that plays into your research. I just thought it was really cool.
Cassie McCreary07:59
When there's a newer instrument on the market and things like that, I think it can be kind of easy to be a little skittish about, “Well, I don't really know, I don't really know if this can apply to my research.” Or, “I don't really know if this is going to be a good fit and my worth my time my investment.” But I think this season really did put a nice, kind of put on a nice show of there are a lot of possibilities for dPCR. And it really, it really is a very powerful tool in a lot of different scenarios and for people to keep kind of in their arsenal when they're conducting their research.
Jordan Ruggieri08:33
Yeah, that's something I took away too is you know, it's a tool in their toolbox to get them to that end result, right, which can be data, deeper insight in the research that they're conducting, all the way to the scale of manufacturing a product, like in the example of Ray Ketchum, right, and manufacturing the soil microbes and how it's used to scale up production there. It's really cool to see new technologies, how they're implemented in different ways for different applications and how it advances the objectives and research of researchers and multiple different cases and scenarios.
Cassie McCreary09:12
Yeah, and I think our guests, every single one of them did a really, really nice job of sharing what those wider implications look like, because I think it would have been very easy for them to come on here and be like, "Yeah, dPCR is great and it gave me these numbers and that's what that means." But then they were like, "No, that's what that means. And that's what it means beyond that." And I think that's really important with any kind of discussion around research in general, right.
Jordan Ruggieri09:36
Totally agree. 100% agree there. What did you learn in terms of digital PCR from these interviews?
Cassie McCreary09:44
I'll let our guests in on a little secret that's probably not at all a secret. But I had minimal knowledge around, I had basic knowledge I should say, around dPCR. Probably for me, and I am so glad we had her on so early in the season when we were recording, was a very helpful conversation for me was with Marcia, our own Marcia Slater. A lot of the specifics within dPCR that I didn't, I didn't really know about. And it was interesting to see her career path too. A little bit on how she moved kind of from qPCR into the dPCR realm. And she really shed a lot of nice light, I think, for somebody like me, in particular, who's more familiar with qPCR. And kind of the differences between the two, but also how they can kind of go hand in hand in some aspects. So, for me, I think that was probably one of my biggest learnings, aside from all the cool applications of ways that you can use it.
Jordan Ruggieri10:36
I'll stick with Marcia's episode here as well too.I mean for me it was just learning about how digital PCR can be used for molecular integrity applications. If you're looking to see if your gene is intact, which should be which is really cool in terms of cell and gene therapies, right? If you're using a particular gene as kind of the promoter gene, the gene that you're utilizing in different therapies, if that is intact, and if that plays a role in how it's going to function as to when you're developing these types of therapies and researching these types of approaches. I just found it super fascinating that digital PCR can help in that particular application and looking at molecular antagonists and antagonists of that gene. So, every day I learn new cool things about digital PCR, how it can be applied, how customers are using it. It's just always great to talk about it. Cassie, I want to move I want to move to your background, you mentioned not necessarily have been the most technical or even the gene-ius around digital PCR. But you do have a science background. Can you maybe tell us, tell the listeners a little bit about where you came from and how you landed here?
Cassie McCreary11:52
Well, listeners, it's been a real journey. I have a background in everything under the sun.
Jordan Ruggieri11:59
She's not lying. It's true.
Cassie McCreary12:01
I have a wide array of interests. Educationally speaking, I have degrees in history, biology, emerging media, and most recently biotechnology. I also completed some graduate studies in forensic science. And then I ultimately decided, “No, not for me, but still very cool and appreciate it, but not, not my jam.” And then professionally, my background is still pretty eclectic. But if you look closely, everybody and walk with me on this, there is a little thread that connects at all. So, I actually started my career in clinical research, I was a clinical research coordinator, I helped to carry out protocols in all kinds of areas. Pediatric anesthesiology, pediatric neurology, some OB/GYN studies, some cardiac studies, all across the board. And I saw a lot of very cool things, a lot of very interesting things. And ultimately, I felt the creative call and I was like, “I want to be, I'm creative. I'd like to use this in my day to day. But I don't want to let go of the science.” I have pursued advanced studies in science purely because I just love science in all of its pure form the curiosity around it, everything else. And I knew that when I completed my graduate studies in biotechnology, it wasn't necessarily because I was going to be working in a lab, but it was because I wanted to, you know, I wanted to be able to talk the talk, so to speak a little bit. And I wanted to just know that and like, prove to myself that like yeah, “I love science, I can do this and I can complete these advanced studies.” And I found a way to unite both my love of the creative and the scientific into kind of this strange career journey. For me, one of the most important things over time that I've taken away is that there is no such thing as like an invaluable skill. All those roles I was able to take something from and bring it to the next role. That was a long winded answer.
Jordan Ruggieri13:59
That's awesome. I figured it would be long winded. You have a, you have a very interesting background.
Cassie McCreary14:04
Yes, it's nice and bizarre. Yes, it is like me. I want to hear about yours Jordy. Tell us?
Jordan Ruggieri14:11
Oh fun you know, it's really interesting. That same kind of thread that intertwines your career journey is the exact same one that that intertwines through mine.
Cassie McCreary14:22
Aha!
Jordan Ruggieri14:23
I ever since I can remember I always wanted to go into dental school.
Cassie McCreary14:28
Can I ask specifically why you were so attracted to being a dentist? Do you know?
Jordan Ruggieri14:32
Yeah, you know, I don't I don't have one thing that you know, that stands out. But the, the furthest memory back I can get, I've always wanted to be, I had always want to be a dentist there was there was no recollection of any other career path for me. I can't remember anything. But the standout kind of earliest memory of it is that old Claymation Rudolph the red nosed reindeer, where the elf, the blonde elf is a dentist, right? And I just remember loving that Claymation you know, Rudolph the red nosed reindeer and that blonde elf was me, I was the blonde elf.
Cassie McCreary15:14
I love that for you. And that's not what I expected.
Jordan Ruggieri15:20
So yeah, that's the that's probably the furthest memory back is just thinking about that elf pulling, pulling the tooth from the abominable snowman I think is what it was. Went into college, with dental school on the horizon. Got 95% of the way through my education, my last semester of senior year is when I finally changed my mind on not going into dental school. A couple months after graduating, taking a job as a researcher at a small biotech company and I spent some time on the bench working on product development and developing some really cool technologies had a really, really unique opportunity to get into marketing as well, just like you did, and took that opportunity and haven't looked back. I fell in love with that same you know, creative aspect and bringing in some creativity as a blend between creativity and science and with some science communication kind of thrown in there as well. And ended up you know, getting my MBA later. It was more than five years after being in the biotech industry, went back for my MBA, and absolutely love where I've landed.
Cassie McCreary16:37
Big time. And I think one of my favorite parts of my journey across all of these very different and strange backgrounds would be that I've come to develop this appreciation that brilliance, or dare I say gene-ius, it can take a lot of forms in a lot of different disciplines and areas. And I have developed such an appreciation for the, for intelligence in all of its many forms along the way. Like I have met some really, really brilliant scientists. I have met some really, really brilliant creatives. And I've met I've met people in you know, in between that are doing kind of a little bit of both, and it's just it that's been one of the more eye opening things for me having this very strange sort of zig-zaggy career that I've been on.
Jordan Ruggieri17:19
Brilliant sci-atives or crea-tatists?
Cassie McCreary17:23
Ooh, yes, exactly. I like sci-atives.
Jordan Ruggieri17:24
Creativisits?
Cassie McCreary17:27
This laser beam noises. I have to get a sound effect in here.
Cassie McCreary17:41
Taking a quick break from our conversation to tell you about Applied Biosystems™ QuantStudio™ Absolute Q™ dPCR system. This instrument enables quantification of your targets without the need for standard curves in only 90 minutes. Digital PCR can be as simple as preparing your samples, loading onto the plate, and running the instrument.
Jordan Ruggieri18:02
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Cassie McCreary18:23
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Jordan Ruggieri18:49
The Applied Biosystems™ QuantStudio™ Absolute Q™ dPCR system is for Research Use Only. Not for use in diagnostic procedures. Let's get back to our conversation.
Cassie McCreary19:04
My earliest thing that I wanted to be was a paleontologist, that was the earliest thing I remember I was seven years old.
Jordan Ruggieri19:09
Who doesn't want to be a paleontologist?
Cassie McCreary19:11
Big Time.
Jordan Ruggieri19:11
That's, that's awesome.
Cassie McCreary19:12
From there, I transitioned to wanting to be an archaeologist and I wanted to be like a female Indiana Jones. You know, “This belongs in a museum.” All that. Held on to that for a very, very long time. Honestly, up until pretty much I left for college, although I did go into college with an undeclared major. And the funniest thing is, if anybody asked me then "What do you want to study?" I would have said, "I don't know. But I can tell you it's not marketing."
Jordan Ruggieri19:42
I would have said the same thing, 100%. I avoided anything marketing related with a ten-foot pole. Oh, yep. Yeah, yep. I totally agree.
Cassie McCreary19:55
I was like, No, absolutely not that that'll never be on my list.
Jordan Ruggieri19:59
Was there something like that anything that stood out? That was, “I actually I really enjoy this. I wonder why I never thought of this before.” Is there, is there an aha moment there for you?
Cassie McCreary20:08
Yeah. And it actually came from when I was investigating my emerging media studies. For those listening who aren't sure emerging media is kind of like, at least for my program, it was very much like social and social media and digital marketing and all that. And I decided, “Okay, I'm going to go ahead.” I just I had just left my forensics program, I was like, “I'm just going to just out of curiosity, I'm gonna look into this” and I attended like a kind of like a little webinar or like a little introduction to the program. This was, “What it's about thing. And they asked in like, the chat, they're like, “Hi, what's, you know, tell us a little bit about your background or whatever else.” And you know, for me, it was like, “Well, you know, I have history and I have forensics and like biology.” And the thing that was a turning point for me was everybody was thrilled that I had a non-traditional background. And how welcoming the like the whole team and everybody was and then my classmates once I got into the program, everything. How welcoming everybody was, that was like something to me where I was like, “Okay, this is a field where if I can be appreciated for having knowledge, that's not necessarily what you would expect then this is kind of the the type of place that I want to be in. This is something where it could be a real asset for me having this kind of eclectic background.” So for me, that was like a, “Yes, I'm heading in the right direction.”
Jordan Ruggieri21:28
I not necessarily an aha moment. But you know, I started in R&D doing product development, and actually the the moment that I was able to get into marketing actually followed my product from the research and development phase into commercialization. And I enjoyed, you know, being able to tell stories and hear stories of how that product was being used. And I found that I really love telling stories around science and how the different platforms are innovative and changing things and moving discoveries forward. And I really enjoy that kind of blend of science. I mean, I view marketing as, as still doing research and, and conducting science. I mean, even you run a campaign, you have a hypothesis about how that campaign is going to run, you know? You form your hypothesis or null hypothesis. You set out your methods. You run your campaign. You look at your data, and you come back and adjust. You know, that's how I view marketing as well. So it's, it's, it's a really cool blend of storytelling, creativity, and science and just find it really, really insightful. And not just that, but it touches so many aspects of business as well. So it's a great kind of in between, of how customers are using technologies to advance their research and advance their science. And then how that impacts innovation in business and the business side of it. Right and what we continue to develop and, and and bring to market. So I just found it a really, really cool area and insightful area to be in more than just, you know, I'm on Facebook, right? Or social media all day. But that's it's blend. It's that storytelling. That's really, really fun.
Cassie McCreary23:16
Yeah, and I think there's a lot of like misconceptions about a lot of careers out there. And I would say, yeah, for marketing, I think it's, it's right off the bat, you think, “Okay, it's coming up with like, cool slogans and like, you know, whatever.” But there's actually yeah, there's a whole, like, there's a whole analytics and metrics side to it. There's a lot of numbers crunching and looking at projections and all of that. And that's a fun sort of more technical side with a lot of people I think, forget about.
Jordan Ruggieri23:42
Cassie, I've got to turn the tables here too. You're, we've asked this of all of our guests. So you're going to join Jordan's Career Corner for just a moment.
Cassie McCreary23:49
Oooh jazzy music here.
Jordan Ruggieri23:53
I know the alliteration is not a as good as Cassie's Career Corner. Jordan's Career Corner.
Cassie McCreary23:56
Jordy's Journey's. Okay.
Jordan Ruggieri23:58
Yes.
Cassie McCreary23:59
All right.
Jordan Ruggieri23:59
What was your proudest career moment or proudest moment? Even on this podcast. And what was your biggest oops?
Cassie McCreary24:07
My proudest moment? Actually, I have a series of them. But one of my I think my favorite and most like, “Awwwwwww,” moments would be when I was working in clinical research, and I was working with it was a pediatric study, I was working with a child, and she was very scared. And we had to get some samples. And it was like the type of study where you had to take samples at certain time, like intervals. And I was able to become like the child whisperer. And I let her paint my nails. And I let her play with my hair. And I, you know, all kinds of things. And we were able to get all the samples we needed on time. And at the end of it, she didn't want me to leave. That was like, actually my proudest moment because I was able to, like, pick up my toes and be like, look, and I think compassion and like empathy and like all that. I think it's very important in any career, but especially in that moment, and I was very proud of myself for like tapping into that. And I was like, yes, you can paint my nails. My most embarrassing moment. There are just so many. Okay, well, and I think this is actually this is also back when I was in clinical research. I was put in charge of creating the first ever newsletter for our research department. And I wrote up the whole first newsletter and we know that there is a P.I. for studies. And as we know, those in the clinical world or really any kind of research, they know P.I. stands for principal investigator. When I wrote the newsletter, I wrote it as private investigator. And even though several eyes, I'll have you know, several eyes edited this thing including my own, none of us caught it, and it got published and distributed around the entire hospital was private investigator.
Jordan Ruggieri25:54
That's amazing!
Cassie McCreary25:55
So I made this poor wonderful, brilliant doctor. I was like, I made him sound like at night he was like investigating people's crimes. Whether the partners were having affairs.
Jordan Ruggieri26:06
Oh that's awesome!
Cassie McCreary26:07
And I'm still embarrassed about that. Yeah. What about you? Welcome to Cassie's Career Corner. Jazz intro again, because you can never have too much of it. What is your proudest moment? And what is your oops?
Jordan Ruggieri26:19
I'm gonna give, I'm gonna give them the most cliche answer.
Cassie McCreary26:23
Hit us. We love it.
Jordan Ruggieri26:24
And it's the podcast. This Absolute Gene-ius podcast.
Cassie McCreary26:28
I do love this too!
Jordan Ruggieri26:30
It's been so fun talking to so many guests and seeing how cool their research is and inspiring the research is. It's been one of the most fun projects and programs I've been a part of so far in my career.
Cassie McCreary26:45
Same.
Jordan Ruggieri26:45
And something I'm proud to be a part of. So that's, that's for me. I know.
Cassie McCreary26:49
Awww. I know. You gave me the warm fuzzies. I'm going to get emotional. I'm enjoying this too and I'm specifically enjoying doing it with you.
Jordan Ruggieri26:56
Oh, same. Ditto on that one of course.
Cassie McCreary26:58
Friendship. Okay, all right. Let's get embarrassed.
Jordan Ruggieri27:01
Biggest embarrassing moment. I'm gonna go back to my lab days. This would have been my first year after graduating. You know I had I had not done gel, so agarose gels for when you're doing PCR, you're looking at DNA bands. I had not done one before. And the way that this was done is they have the liquid agarose that that kind of solidifies in in a glass flask.
Cassie McCreary27:31
I’ve got this. I think I have a similar story but go ahead.
Jordan Ruggieri27:34
Oh yeah? And so you know you put it in the microwave to heat it up and liquefy it before you pour it and so when it cools it turns into the gel in the tray. And I stuck it in the microwave right, and heated up and I couldn't quite tell I was looking at it couldn't quite tell if it had fully liquefied if there were still clumps in there that would that would ruin the gel so I opened the lid and I kind of put my eye over
Cassie McCreary28:02
Oh no!
Jordan Ruggieri28:02
And I went I shook it to kind of see it hit the hot parts of the glass and bubbled up and exploded to my face.
Cassie McCreary28:09
Oh no. Okay not the same. Oh that's terrible. I'm glad your face is okay. Wow.
Jordan Ruggieri28:14
Yes. I mean it was fine but I had clumps of gel in my hair and in my eyebrows and all over me that you know in the middle of the lab with you know 20 other people in there. That was my biggest oops and I walked over you know walked through I had to go to the bathroom to clean out my hair and clean out clumped gel all over.
Cassie McCreary28:35
This has been such a fun, funky fresh wrap up and we do have like a wee bit of a special announcement. But first we would like to say how much we appreciate everybody taking the time to listen to Absolute Gene-ius with us, you know over the course of this season but, and I you know cue the drum roll and fanfare here. I think you should make the announcement.
Jordan Ruggieri29:05
All of that to say "Jordan you do it!"
Cassie McCreary29:07
Jordy you do it.
Jordan Ruggieri29:10
We are super excited to announce that we will be back for a season two of Absolute Gene-ius!
Cassie McCreary29:16
Yay. If you enjoy listening to Absolute Gene-ius this season, we encourage you to please leave us a positive review but also please send in your thoughts and any suggestions for future episodes to absolute.geneius@thermofisher.com. Gene-ius is spelled g-e-n-e-i-u-s.
Jordan Ruggieri29:37
We are in the planning phases currently. We're lining up the next round of amazing gene-iuses and we invite you to stay subscribed, stay listening, and stay curious and join us for season two.
Cassie McCreary29:49
Yes. Cue the happy kid techno.